TOPIC:

Thinking the weird weather we had in October pushed everything back this fall, water temps should typically be lower this time of the year. Going to keep trying and will report what I find out there, I feel it has to be soon... seems like some years they almost show up overnight along the shoreline. I think my minnows are getting bored haha. 

Dude, I agree with your assumptions here. They should show up anytime now.